Fandom tennis match meme

[lokifan]

As stolen from redbrunja Fandom Tennis Match Meme:

Okay, here's how this is going to work. You comment with a fandom question. I answer it and then ask you a question that has some thematic relevance to the question you asked me.

Talk to me, people, I am in an insomniac haze - the kind where actually doing things is very hard but sleeping is too, and you're terrible company IRL but you want to talk to people. Basically what I'm saying is THANK COD FOR THE INTERNET.

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[lap_otter]

Hmm... Should these questions relate to a specific fandom, or...?

Oh, actually, I know what I want to ask: Tell me three things about Norse mythology Loki that you wish more Marvel Loki fans knew?

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[lokifan]

Either/or.

Also, it's very sweet of you to give me an opportunity to rant :) Although Marvel Loki fans do relatively okay, I just wish they'd stop being like AH BUT IN THE OLD STORIES, YOU SEE.

1. Loki has a massive appetite. He won at least one bet based on his capacity to eat and eat and eat. He's kind of hedonistic and this is part of that. I get the urge to make him bird-like in his habits as a contrast to Thor, but I also think it's part of this slightly creepy habit of fandom's re: fetishising irregular eating habits. And also INACCURATE.

2. Loki had both an Aesir wife and a giant wife, and kids with both. Idk, it's just something I find sort of interesting and wish we saw more of - I like Sigyn in general.

3. Before Loki was ever associated with ice, he was associated with fire. He might have begun life as a fire demon before he was a deity and he uses fire against people more than once. (My icon is of Luke, a different iteration of Loki, whose book's cover shows him with fire in his hands.)

3a *cheats*. Thor and Loki went on odd-couple missions but they weren't brothers - Odin and Loki were blood-brothers, and it was that sworn loyalty that gave half-giant trickster Loki a place in the Aesir court. Like, I totally see how and why Marvel rejigged those relationships and it works for me, but I just think it would be cool if more people were aware of that dynamic.

[lap_otter]

Those are all really interesting!

I have a friend who is actually a comic fan (I'm not; I watched the movies, and I only kept watching because Loki) who tells me Loki will never have a full-on redemption arc because "he's a villain. Evil is kind of his thing." (Which, IMO, is a stupid reason for any villain anywhere to do anything.) But I'm given to understand that Norse!Loki (Real!Loki? Myths!Loki? Do you have a preferred shorthand?) is not unambiguously evil--unambiguously mischievous, yes, but so are Fred and George and it doesn't make them evil. But I have almost zero exposure to these myths (Humon comics are cool but not exactly educational) so what's your take? Also will it bother you if I just keep asking you questions about Loki forever?